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Post by jilljackson on Dec 7, 2014 6:58:06 GMT -8
I don't know many artists who can create on a schedule. It's something that they all wrestle with and can be difficult on those around them. But, honestly,true creativity doesn't just pop up when you want it. Making a doll that is similar to something she has already done may be more difficult for Marina than something totally new.
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Post by lilithskyblue on Dec 7, 2014 7:29:33 GMT -8
All I know is, I get really excited to see the new dolls and accessories that she is making, that I go to the blog every day searching! I don't think it's due to having a hard time getting creative juices flowing, I think she has been making lots of accessory orders and other stuff. Still, I start getting really frustrated because her time lines are way way out of wack lately.
I am adding this extra bit. I am not trying to be negative, I adore Marna and her dolls, I am lucky enough to have 2. I think if she were to show us all the different dolls, masks and accessories she is sending out, it would relieve some of the waiting. I'm sure she has had plenty of orders of those beautiful masks in different colors and she could ask buyers if they minded her showing them on her blog.
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Post by bobo on Dec 7, 2014 8:55:39 GMT -8
You would think so, wouldn't you? There should be some consequences in not following through with an offered bid. I'm not familiar with Auction Stealer. What's the difference between that and Sniper? I have never use Sniper so I guess they are very similar. With Auctionstealer you can fill in your intended bid with them days before the auction and they only execute your bid at the very last 3 seconds before the Auction ended so there won't be enough time for your competitor to place theirs if they are using manual bid. You can also increase your bid if you see the other bidders already bid up close to your secret bid amount. When you increase your amount it will still remain silent. I always wonder why some bidders bid on an item so early even on the first day and they bid on against each other to push the price up and stopped suddenly. Are they inexperience or false bidders that I don't really know!
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Post by lazhielle on Dec 7, 2014 21:37:44 GMT -8
all i know is bidoll got out the photos when she said the doll would be ready for auction. think of the eventual competition. The ones who have good business practice and ethics would be more favorable.
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Post by jilljackson on Dec 8, 2014 7:00:45 GMT -8
I appreciate what some of you are saying, and I do understand how frustrating it can be to do business with someone who is not responding in a timely manner. Artists are human. They have high energy days and sometimes some very low periods. In talking to the husband of another artist recently, he expressed how difficult it is for him at times, when his wife (the artist) just can't seem to focus. She has been known to attend an event in her honor and felt so incapacitated that she cannot leave the hotel room to attend the event and he had to face a very disappointed (upset) group of people. A few months later she may get on a role and create a whole new line.
I don't mean to say that Marina is like this, but it must be hard to produce on time. Sure, it gives others an edge, but they may also have times later on when they are not quite as motivated. Who knows?
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Post by jilljackson on Dec 8, 2014 7:09:36 GMT -8
You would think so, wouldn't you? There should be some consequences in not following through with an offered bid. I'm not familiar with Auction Stealer. What's the difference between that and Sniper? I have never use Sniper so I guess they are very similar. With Auctionstealer you can fill in your intended bid with them days before the auction and they only execute your bid at the very last 3 seconds before the Auction ended so there won't be enough time for your competitor to place theirs if they are using manual bid. You can also increase your bid if you see the other bidders already bid up close to your secret bid amount. When you increase your amount it will still remain silent. I always wonder why some bidders bid on an item so early even on the first day and they bid on against each other to push the price up and stopped suddenly. Are they inexperience or false bidders that I don't really know! I don't know why other people bid early, but my reason for doing it recently was because I don't use Ebay very often and when I do I often use the Buy it Now option if it's offered. I just put in an outside bid, which, as you say, shows up. It does only go just over the last bid but it does show an increase. I don't know if Sniper and Auctionstealer are faster. Probably so. there probably are people who have friends post higher bids to up the price. Sometimes showing an aggressive price can discourage other bidders. I've seen that done with real estate and on site auctions.
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Post by eiko82 on Dec 8, 2014 8:37:31 GMT -8
You would think so, wouldn't you? There should be some consequences in not following through with an offered bid. There are consequences for it if the seller decides to take certain actions. I recently experienced this on Ebay : I had put a doll for sale on Ebay. Someone bid on it and won the auction. Shortly afterwards, they contacted me to say that they needed a bit more time for Paypal to release the funds. So I gave him a couple of days. Eventually, they had to admit that they wasn't able to pay me. Turns out they had sold something on Ebay, their buyer had asked for a refund and Ebay/Paypal had ruled in the buyer's favour. Therefore they didn't the money to pay for the doll. If I had wanted (and I did consider it), I could've left a 'unpaid item' mark on their feedback profile. If you get 3 of those, your ability to buy on Ebay is restricted. all i know is bidoll got out the photos when she said the doll would be ready for auction. think of the eventual competition. The ones who have good business practice and ethics would be more favorable. I agree with you to some extent about people favouring artists with good business practices but at the same time, I think we all know that Marina has no lack of interest in her business. Do I like the way she runs her business? No, I don't always agree with it. I'm sure that the hard obtainability of her dolls has driven some customers away. But even so, she can obviously afford to make only 6 dolls a year and still support herself and Chad with the ED brand (book, shoes, accessories, etc). If this business model didn't work, then she wouldn't be able to keep going. Since it does work for her, she has no reason to change it. I've been following Marina's work since 2008 and tbh I've rarely seen her stick to her own deadlines. When she announced this year's November auction, I didn't think that she'd actually have it in November. I would say end of December or January is a more likely period. Even her own annual ED birthday contest has been postponed twice 'cause she wasn't able to organize it in time. It's not just her. Like others have said, time management often isn't an artist's strong point. I've just learned to accept that.
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Post by lazhielle on Dec 8, 2014 8:45:33 GMT -8
what about all the artists who work with galleries? They will have to stick to their deadlines otherwise the galleries will black list them. Just because other artists can't time manage doesn't mean it doesn't hold her accountable to her words and actions. Maybe she should rethink how she expresses herself. like, "I hope to auction off by November", not "I will". Otherwise if she says anything at all you just have to take everything with disbelief or a grain of salt.
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Post by eiko82 on Dec 8, 2014 11:40:38 GMT -8
Yes but there is a difference between her saying that she'll sell a doll through Ebay and selling a doll through a gallery. Obviously, if she wants to sell dolls through galleries, she has to stick to *their* deadlines. But with the Ebay auction, there is no one forcing her to stick to any deadline. She is entitled to change it as much as she likes eventho I agree that it's very frustrating for her fans.
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Post by lazhielle on Dec 9, 2014 3:56:11 GMT -8
Her right is not in question. Her business practice is
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Post by jilljackson on Dec 9, 2014 8:26:39 GMT -8
I don't think anyone is going to change their minds, but "eiko" was (I feel) correct in saying that how Marina deals with galleries is probably different than how she deals with others. I imagine galleries would be a priority, but she did cancel her personal appearances and trip to Moscow this year.
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Post by 415ea on Dec 9, 2014 8:32:02 GMT -8
Her right is not in question. Her business practice is I agree completely. Just because we love an artist's work and aesthetic vision, doesn't mean we also have to accept or excuse how that artist treats her fans. There are many successful artists out there for whom their fans are their top priority. I just wish all successful artists could hold onto the joy and responsibility they initially felt the first time someone truly supported their work. Not many people are fortunate to have such a large a fan base. Having said that, I love Marina's art and fully support her artistic vision, but maybe just not her business practices.
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Post by skulptress on Dec 9, 2014 15:16:13 GMT -8
Enchanted doll site is not working right now.... I wonder if it is being updated with auction information?
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Post by bibarina on Dec 10, 2014 8:56:05 GMT -8
Enchanted doll site is not working right now.... I wonder if it is being updated with auction information? Not yet! Marina has just posted a picture of the mask she is working on for Cinderella on her blog. She hopes to have all finished next week!
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Post by eiko82 on Dec 11, 2014 22:28:03 GMT -8
Chad posted this on the ED forum :
Now I'm curious to see what other accessories Marina will be added to Cinderella.
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