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Post by allurose on Nov 6, 2014 8:23:57 GMT -8
I was thinking of making such a Flickr book to use at a porcelain Bjd show and tell presentation I am doing in February.
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Post by bibarina on Nov 6, 2014 10:35:09 GMT -8
I was thinking of making such a Flickr book to use at a porcelain Bjd show and tell presentation I am doing in February. Now that sounds like a great idea allurose!
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Post by jilljackson on Nov 7, 2014 10:46:17 GMT -8
I was thinking of making such a Flickr book to use at a porcelain Bjd show and tell presentation I am doing in February. I would love to see what you prepare, "allurose". Are you going to prepare written text or just "wing it"? Is there a complete or at least comprehensive list of porcelain BJD artists on this forum somewhere? People are creating under different names with different company names, doll line names, artist names. I don't think I've got them all straight in my mind.
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Post by allurose on Nov 7, 2014 11:00:21 GMT -8
I'm working on a complete list! It's a bigger job than you might think...I already have over 50 artists on the list I'm working on! I was planning to make it more of a viewbook, with little text. Just full page photos, one for each artist, and a small caption saying the artist's name, brand name, and artist. If I go through with it I'll get a few extra for contest prizes on the forum
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Post by fawkes on Nov 8, 2014 0:34:06 GMT -8
I'm reading a book at the moment in which the author sent a list of questions by mail to contributors from all over the world. They sent him back their answers, which he used in his book. He also used skype for some of his interviews. It could be an idea to elaborate on small captions with artist's name...you've planned.
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Post by aeroksana on Nov 10, 2014 4:30:03 GMT -8
I'm working on a complete list! It's a bigger job than you might think...I already have over 50 artists on the list I'm working on! I was planning to make it more of a viewbook, with little text. Just full page photos, one for each artist, and a small caption saying the artist's name, brand name, and artist. If I go through with it I'll get a few extra for contest prizes on the forum Yay! I definately love this!!!
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Post by allurose on Nov 10, 2014 7:11:25 GMT -8
I'm reading a book at the moment in which the author sent a list of questions by mail to contributors from all over the world. They sent him back their answers, which he used in his book. He also used skype for some of his interviews. It could be an idea to elaborate on small captions with artist's name...you've planned. That sounds really neat, but more complicated than I was planning
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Post by fitz on Nov 10, 2014 7:51:52 GMT -8
I'm reading a book at the moment in which the author sent a list of questions by mail to contributors from all over the world. They sent him back their answers, which he used in his book. He also used skype for some of his interviews. It could be an idea to elaborate on small captions with artist's name...you've planned. That sounds really neat, but more complicated than I was planning Perhaps since there are many with good ideas- maybe you could use some assistants? You could also use your presentation for a jumping off point that becomes more involved with time?
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Post by allurose on Nov 20, 2014 16:17:31 GMT -8
Fitz, you are so wise. I always try to do everything myself when it would be better to just ask for help!
I do want to do at least a simple viewbook of 30-40 pages, with photos and artist credits. Anyone that is seriously interested in helping with that, or with expanding the project please PM me. Here are things that will need to be done: -gather photos from doll owners or artists in a particular size. -possibly editing photos so they fit on the page or show colors properly -at the minimum, notifying every artist who's work we display and letting them know we aren't planning to make profit off the books (which I assume is the only fair way to do it) -arranging the photos into book form using Shutterfly or something similar -adding text with artist credits and websites to every page -organizing the order with regards to how many will be ordered and where they will be sent -possibly putting up some cash to fund the project.
Possible ways to expand the project: -add interviews or statements from artists -go through a more official publisher to ensure better quality (requires more up front cost) -arrange this to be a long term project with opportunity for profit. Profit would go to improving the forum (removing ads, increasing storage space, funding forum contests, that kind of thing).
I kind of like the idea of having a book like this available long term to help support the forum and introduce people to dolls. But I'm not sure how artists would react to having their photos in a book like that? I suppose it's kind of like a doll magazine, there are pictures and interviews and the magazine does sell for money. But maybe it would be offensive to suggest this if the artists weren't getting a cut of the profit? I don't know much about what is polite here. I think having a few copies of a book just for my presentation and forum prizes should be ok for sure though...
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Post by jilljackson on Nov 21, 2014 7:37:23 GMT -8
Just some thoughts on the subject: As I have mentioned, I have worked in the magazine/book industry for several decades, though it has been a long time since I actually put together a full book, and I have not been involved in on-line printing. But, regarding the "Possible ways to expand the project", I would be happy to help compile interviews from various artists, whether you decided to do a simple, more limited book, or a longer term book.
If you are planning to use all profits (though I sincerely doubt there would be any) to create the book, update, keep current, or improve this site, it would be possible to make the whole project a "Not for Profit", foundation. The purpose would be "To Educate Collectors on Porcelain BJD". Forms to create a non-profit can be obtained on line and then must be registered somewhere, usually a State. These are then tax free, though you may have to pay a small licensing fee each year.
I have always found artists love to have their work published, and if the book is non-profit and dedicated to educating people on the kinds of dolls they make, they should have no problem not expecting any payment.
I would really avoid going through an "official publisher". They really can be very expensive. It's possible that after the book is composed you could "shop" it to several publishers to see if they would want to take over the publishing under their own name. But, you would then lose control of the book, and you can't be guaranteed they will market it.
Compiling data & photos from 30 or so artists is time consuming, but not all that difficult, if you have contact information. I started doing that for the Debut of Dolls magazine issue, about 10 years ago. I would be happy to do my part.
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Post by allurose on Nov 21, 2014 8:44:05 GMT -8
Just some thoughts on the subject: As I have mentioned, I have worked in the magazine/book industry for several decades, though it has been a long time since I actually put together a full book, and I have not been involved in on-line printing. But, regarding the "Possible ways to expand the project", I would be happy to help compile interviews from various artists, whether you decided to do a simple, more limited book, or a longer term book. If you are planning to use all profits (though I sincerely doubt there would be any) to create the book, update, keep current, or improve this site, it would be possible to make the whole project a "Not for Profit", foundation. The purpose would be "To Educate Collectors on Porcelain BJD". Forms to create a non-profit can be obtained on line and then must be registered somewhere, usually a State. These are then tax free, though you may have to pay a small licensing fee each year. I have always found artists love to have their work published, and if the book is non-profit and dedicated to educating people on the kinds of dolls they make, they should have no problem not expecting any payment. I would really avoid going through an "official publisher". They really can be very expensive. It's possible that after the book is composed you could "shop" it to several publishers to see if they would want to take over the publishing under their own name. But, you would then lose control of the book, and you can't be guaranteed they will market it. Compiling data & photos from 30 or so artists is time consuming, but not all that difficult, if you have contact information. I started doing that for the Debut of Dolls magazine issue, about 10 years ago. I would be happy to do my part. Jilljackson, you have so many good ideas! Thanks for sharing. I like the idea of a nonprofit if the book is going to be a long term project. I do already have contact info for most of the artists. I agree, the small version of the project is not too hard to do
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Post by jilljackson on Nov 22, 2014 7:50:02 GMT -8
It's fairly easy to get all the info together for a book, especially if you pick a small "committee" and divide the duties.
I am not aware of any book that concentrates on porcelain BJD, which is an emerging doll sector. It really would be fun to get them together in one lovely book.
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Post by jilljackson on Dec 3, 2014 10:28:54 GMT -8
Has anyone gone ahead with a possible book? It would be such a wonderful thing to have. I don't need to participate. I know a lot of you have known each other for a long time. Just don't want the project to stall...
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Post by allurose on Dec 3, 2014 11:12:34 GMT -8
I'm going to at least make a simple book with photos. But I might not start it until January, I'm booked up with etsy commissions right now.
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Post by jilljackson on Dec 4, 2014 7:24:41 GMT -8
What is your Etsy site address, Allurose, please?
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