I'd like your opinion on the realization of private parties (pubis) of dolls. For me, makes me weird to make a doll with a adult body and a childlike appearance, however I do not get a solution that satisfies me to give an "adult" look and make it look nice and delicate at once ...
what do you think? as you prefer it or have solved?
(as examples, ED dolls) do you prefer this?
o more childlike?
Last Edit: Apr 6, 2015 11:15:57 GMT -8 by Lasmallen
Post by lilithskyblue on Apr 6, 2015 12:10:33 GMT -8
My opinion is.... for me, I do not care for pubic hair on dolls, though it would not bother me if I really loved the doll and I had no choice such as with Enchanted dolls. I also don't particularly care for the clit sticking out, and would not put it on my own dolls, but as with the pubic hair, if I loved the doll it would not matter. Luckily being hairless is very popular now, and has almost become the norm, so there is no worry about hairless not being realistic, if realistic is really important to you.
rather than realism itself is important to me that look "mature" and not "child" ... Clearly, it is easier and less complicated leave hairless, and that is my question: if it has become common to leave them without pubic hair is for convenience or preference ... since we are all different places, I think it's interesting to see the different opinions
It really doesn't matter to me either way to be honest, as long as it is well done if it is there at all. However, I was looking at some photo's online of porcelain Bjd's and there was a photo of a doll I quite liked- she was very cute. When I clicked on it to view, I was shocked to see that someone had left a very aggressive message citing it as child porn!!!!! It most certainly wasn't in my opinion, but it amazes me that some people do feel so strongly about dolls and their nudity!
I don't see any need to put pubic hair on the dolls. We don't put armpit hair on them or leg hair.. I also prefer to see just a simple genital area without the clit being to obvious. Dolls are not human, they are stylised versions of humans so they do not need to be wholly realistic. That's just just me though, I'm happy for other doll makers do explore all of the ways to make their dolls interesting.
I prefer dolls with detailed genitalia. I think it is a bit sad to spend so much time sculpting the rest of the doll but ignore that area. It is a part of the body too. But I can also understand why some people prefer their dolls to be "angel" style with no genitalia at all.
As for pubic hair...people prefer different styles in real life too. One of my dolls has pubic hair, which I requested just because I think it adds to the realism of the doll. It is like dolls with freckles. Not all real people have freckles or moles, but when those details are added to a doll it bumps up the realism in an impressive way and shows off the skills of the artist. But my other doll has no pubic hair and I like her just as well.
As for armpit hair, actually some dolls do have this! Some of the Enchanted Dolls for example:
I loved the thread,' Female sculpts by male doll makers and vice versa', I hadn't seen it before. So many good points of view.. And the armpit hair on Cixi was very pretty and discreet.. Marina is such a skilled painter she can make anything look good..!
It depends. I'm okay with pubic hair and the hint of a clitoris but have one porcelain doll where the clitoris is livid and in the wrong place. This doll is cast by a male artist and the hairy flaming-red genital region is painted on the pubic bone instead of between the legs, so, I'm guessing, it was to get that in-you-face effect. Anatomy lessons are in order here! No real woman's clitoris shows when she is standing naked, and certainly not the inner pinker folds-- and they are a dark pink, not flaming red. I'm kind of insulted every time I take this doll out to play.
I remember when I first got this doll, a male friend asked me why she was so angry. She has a sweet face! It was the angry red genital area that gave him that impression.
Another thing, I tend not to show my dolls with realistically rendered genitalia to anyone except other porcelain bjd aficionados because I did once and the person gave me a look like I was some kind of pervert. They didn't understand the realism at all!!
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I actually quite like pubic hair on dolls, I find it beautiful and realistic. It depends on the doll and character I see that doll as, I probably wouldn't want all my dolls to have pubic hair. I commissioned my Paperwhite doll without pubic hair and for her style I like it that way. For Enchanted Dolls I kind of really like pubic hair and wish my porcelain ED would have it. If I am ever lucky enough to get a second porcelain ED, I hope she has pubic hair, I really like the way Marina paints it.
I was going to mention Cixi as well, I find it quite cute that she has armpit hair. I wouldn't want all my dolls to have armpit hair but wouldn't mind having one with it, like with the pubic hair, I feel it really adds realism.
As for the way a dolls genitalia is rendered, I feel it depends on the overall style of the doll. Most of my female resin bjd's genitalia is very subtle, just a slit, a little line, and I find it fitting, especially for younger sculpts.
I also don't mind if some people prefer the "angel" style as allurose mentioned it, I feel it's really up to whatever the doll artist chooses to depict and whatever collectors feel comfortable with.
I myself however have a preference for realistic genitalia on dolls.
Post by jilljackson on Apr 8, 2015 10:48:18 GMT -8
I think it's wonderful that so many different body types are available. While my usual preference is "subtle realism" in genitalia, both male and female, there can be exceptions depending on how the doll is dressed, period of dress, ethnicity, and so forth. The women in my doll club do hasten to cover the "private parts" on some of my dolls when I take them to the meeting, because I am one of the few modern doll collectors. They are used to the the asexual depiction of antique and early fashion dolls, i.e. Barbie.
Flaming red, other than henna tattoos, have no place in my doll world, and, though BiDolls seem a little overly endowed, they put me in mind of the Vargas illustrations and I do love other aspects of these dolls.
When having a male doll created for the first time, I was asked by the artist about genitalia and body hair. Her euphemism for the penis was his "happy place". My response was, I wanted him to be look "pleased", but not "overjoyed". Guess that goes for both genders.
Glad I could give you a chuckle, Bibarina. This fellow actually wound up receiving People's Choice Award in the IDEX BJD contest--and that was with his pants on, covering all that hard work (no pun intended) by the artist. I didn't enter him. He was a "write in" by attendees, who saw him sitting nearby while I was working.