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Post by Tovah_Leah on Sept 24, 2014 22:20:49 GMT -8
I hope this is the correct forum to post this thread in. If not, please move it!
I was hoping to see many different porcelain dolls set beside one another, to see them together and see what similarities and differences they have. Those of you who have multiple dolls by multiple artists, would you be willing to share?
Comparisons between size, poseability, and details (hands, feet, faces), are what I am most interested in. Although, I am sure there are other things to compare as well!
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Post by eiko82 on Sept 25, 2014 7:14:58 GMT -8
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Post by allurose on Sept 26, 2014 15:00:51 GMT -8
When I first met Teri of Paperwhite Dolls she let me do some posing comparisons with one of her Miss Poppy series Paperwhite dolls and her Enchanted Doll, Kia. I was a terrible photographer back then and too excited/timid to photograph many poses (I couldn't believe she would let me handle them at all!). So I apologize for the quality. But you can still see how both dolls shine in their own way. <3 Miss Poppy No. 2, Kia, and Alisha by TinyJewelsShop, on Flickr Kia and Miss Poppy No. 2 lounging by TinyJewelsShop, on Flickr I also wrote up a little comparison review, posted on the ED forum at the time: "First, I have to agree with everyone else who has said that seeing and handling EDs is such a wonderful experience. I was so very excited to get to see Kia and even be able to play with her! My favorite thing about being able to touch Kia was feeling her henna engravings. I knew that Marina makes these by engraving the doll, but I didn't realize that you could feel them once the doll is complete! I really loved the way they felt, and it made me want to get tattoos/engravings on my own porcelain doll(s) someday, which I had never really seriously considered before. Marina's work is really just amazing. The same is true of the Terri's Paperwhite Dolls. They were so much more impressive in person than in any pictures I have seen (and her photos are lovely!). I was VERY impressed with the quality of the dolls on all levels. They were definitely of the same quality as the ED in terms of beauty, sculpt, and posing. I had the same feeling with both dolls that I was holding a precious little person. Both dolls are cast in the same quality of extremely smooth, fine porcelain. There were some things about her dolls that I preferred to the ED, such as the slightly smaller head and eye size and more delicate blushing. My favorite difference is the leather Terri uses for sueding, which is very thin and so well placed that it hardly shows at all! Handling these dolls is definitely a different experience than any other type of doll. Terri showed me how to move each joint independently instead of making movements with several joints at a time, which you can do with dolls strung with elastic or obitsu style dolls. I think I need more practice! But it was a very pleasurable tactile experience to feel the springs moving and holding each position. There is really no comparison with elastic, no matter how well jointed/strung/sueded the doll is. The only parts of the dolls (both Paperwhite and ED) that couldn't mimic human positions totally accurately were the legs. Neither doll could move their leg way back (like in some yoga or ballet poses). Similarly, they can't bring their legs way forward, to hug them to their chest. However, this is to be expected from dolls without double hip joints, so I was not surprised or disappointed. Terri did say that she is working on making a double hip joint or double torso joint of some sort, which would be so cool! Other than this, her doll is very flexible and can mimic and hold almost all poses most human bodies can. There were lots of other little differences like the shape of the legs and the width of the toes. The ED's hands and toes are more elongated and squished together than the Paperwhite Doll hands. The Paperwhite Doll has a more pronounced bottom and more drape to her breasts. They also had a more natural style of eye paint, more like a person without makeup, while to me the EDs mostly appear to be wearing makeup. One significant difference is the location of the chest joint, which is tucked right under the breasts on the Paperwhite dolls. All of these things combined to make a doll that is truly unique and lovely. While I can see that Terri was inspired by Marina's work, she has also clearly created something new that is entirely her own. " (from this thread on the ED forum: www.enchantedforum.net/showthread.php?1348-Dreaming-of-Porcelain/page10)
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Post by allurose on Sept 26, 2014 15:05:35 GMT -8
Also, I have this picture of my dolls and (most of) Nessa's dolls. It's actually the photo I started with when I made our current banner. They are posed more for aesthetics than comparison though: Porcelain gathering by TinyJewelsShop, on Flickr From left to right: Carmen, Nessa's Vivid Doll by Polina Myalovskaya Alisha, my Paperwhite Doll by Teri Alina, my Paperwhite Doll by Teri Nessa's Springbud Doll by Angelika Balan Nessa's doll by Maryna Skubenko Nessa and I are planning to get together in October or November to do some comparison shots and some artsy stuff for banners. I'll post more photos then! Any posing requests?
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Post by Tovah_Leah on Sept 26, 2014 18:30:25 GMT -8
So many dolls! You mentioned the Paperwhites have a more pronounced bottoms, is there any way to have a look at that? I find myself curious.
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Post by allurose on Sept 26, 2014 22:22:34 GMT -8
So many dolls! You mentioned the Paperwhites have a more pronounced bottoms, is there any way to have a look at that? I find myself curious. The shape is a little different compared to ED. I don't have a strong opinion on which is better, although it makes pants hard to fit. flic.kr/p/e2HpX4Here is a super boring but very clear picture of Alisha in profile. Since Alisha was made Teri has refined the torso. The hip joint now sits further back which makes the bottom look a little smaller. It also makes the balls of the leg joint stick out less. Alina has the new torso piece. I don't have any good pictures of it though.
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Post by Tovah_Leah on Sept 27, 2014 2:59:32 GMT -8
Wow you really wouldn't think she had such a nice booty looking at her from the front! I think that is so cute for some reason.
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Post by issilyn on Sept 27, 2014 7:23:53 GMT -8
The smaller FH dolls bottom is also similar. I have trouble putting her in a regular stand because her booty is too "pronounced"
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Post by allurose on Sept 27, 2014 9:19:21 GMT -8
Judging by my partner's struggles to sculpt her own doll, I think it is common to have a large bottom when trying to achieve good poseability. The easiest way to make a flexible hip joint seems to be to have large hips or bottom. Or to have a double joint. Just what I've noticed, it's probably not always true.
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