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Post by lazhielle on Oct 6, 2014 20:28:19 GMT -8
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Post by allurose on Oct 6, 2014 22:24:11 GMT -8
It says they are made of air dry slip. I'm not really sure what that is, but it doesn't sound like they are fired? They sure are lovely though!  |
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Post by fitz on Oct 7, 2014 17:39:19 GMT -8
I think it is flumo - but I dont know what flumo is. You pour it into plaster mold and treat it like regular slip, but it dries hard. The dolls I have seen made with flumo look rough though.
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Post by lazhielle on Oct 7, 2014 20:20:55 GMT -8
Ah it's air dry cold porcelain, which is basically corn starch and certain glues I think. It will always be desolvable with water
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Post by bibarina on Oct 10, 2014 11:50:55 GMT -8
I love Jacs Sutherlands dolls- and her sister makes fantastic costumes for them. They aren't porcelain, as she wanted to keep her dolls affordable for more people to enjoy. I know that she sculpts all her hands individually, but the rest of the body she moulds from her master sculpts.
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Post by jilljackson on Dec 14, 2014 9:35:31 GMT -8
I love the sculpt & clothing. Not sure about the medium.
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Post by 415ea on Dec 14, 2014 11:25:54 GMT -8
I love Jacs Sutherlands dolls- and her sister makes fantastic costumes for them. They aren't porcelain, as she wanted to keep her dolls affordable for more people to enjoy. I know that she sculpts all her hands individually, but the rest of the body she moulds from her master sculpts. I like it! OK, I have a very basic question as I know nothing about sculpting techniques or manufacturing--aren't all porcelain bjds made from molds? Or does the artist have to individually sculpt each piece every time she makes a new doll? I'm just wondering how the actual material makes the doll more affordable. |
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Post by lilithskyblue on Dec 14, 2014 12:05:09 GMT -8
yes all porcelain ball jointed dolls are made from molds, but the porcelain can be manipulated when it first comes out of the mold and is soft. That way features can be changed carefully with tools. Flumo also uses molds but needs no firing when it comes out of the mold, all it needs is to dry. It can be sanded, carved and painted with a variety of paints that need no firing like porcelain china paint does.
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Post by allurose on Dec 14, 2014 12:08:21 GMT -8
I love Jacs Sutherlands dolls- and her sister makes fantastic costumes for them. They aren't porcelain, as she wanted to keep her dolls affordable for more people to enjoy. I know that she sculpts all her hands individually, but the rest of the body she moulds from her master sculpts. I like it! OK, I have a very basic question as I know nothing about sculpting techniques or manufacturing--aren't all porcelain bjds made from molds? Or does the artist have to individually sculpt each piece every time she makes a new doll? I'm just wondering how the actual material makes the doll more affordable. Process for a true porcelain doll: 1. sculpted (various materials are used such as sculpey, wax, paperclay) 2. Plaster molds are made 3. doll is cast with poured porcelain 4. porcelain is fired in a kiln and refined 5. porcelain is fired again 6. China paint is applied in many layers, with firing in between each layer (takes weeks) 7. plaster molds can be used many times Process for a doll made of air-dry slip: 1. sculpted (various materials are used such as sculpey, wax, paperclay) 2. plaster molds are made 3. doll is cast with poured porcelain 4. doll is painted with acrylics 5. plaster molds can be used many times The porcelain doll artist must spend many more hours doing the firings and highly skilled china painting. So there is more cost for the artist's skill and time. Firing kilns is expensive and adds to the cost (also many artists buy a kiln, which must be paid off eventually). China paints are also expensive. While the air dry artist does not need to fire a kiln ever, and they can buy cheap acrylic paint that is easier to master. It is easy to see the appeal of the air dry process, much faster and easier to master. But I wonder if the dolls are as sturdy? I don't know, I have never handled one. Also I prefer the look of china paints. |
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Post by lilithskyblue on Dec 14, 2014 12:47:22 GMT -8
Flumo is very strong and light weight. You can get a flumo doll wet, but you could never leave it soaking in water very long because it will soften up and possibly fall apart. It's quite a nice alternative for those without a kiln.
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Post by jilljackson on Dec 15, 2014 11:58:44 GMT -8
With porcelain the first firing results in "greenware" which is rather soft and requires much cleaning and sanding before the first paint is applied. Some molds collapse during the first firing and have to be redone. There are a lot of pieces with a BJD because of the jointing. Each of those pieces has to go through all of the casting, firing, cleaning, painting, refirings, etc.
It's very time consuming, labor intensive.
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Post by Divine Creations on Dec 16, 2014 5:37:34 GMT -8
Sweet dolls, they are made from Flumo, I can see it little rough skin and paintings. |
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