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Post by bibarina on Oct 19, 2016 4:47:58 GMT -8
Bibarina, yes so true  especially when having seven cats in the house! But with my own dolls I don't have to worry, because I really don't care if they break a doll or too  . (one of our cats actually just today broke my plaster mold for hands...dropped in on the floor...well, just have to do another mold I guess). I would be super worried though if I had porcelain doll made by real artist -that doll would be locked in lantern etc, far far away from my cats paws  Caracal- you underestimate yourself! Your dolls are worth a lot more than being broken by little kitties!! :-) |
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Post by Lasmallen on Nov 27, 2016 19:27:59 GMT -8
i think that the porcelain is a natural and noble material. you can put over it gold , stones, or any jewel and will never seem out of place |
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Post by 415ea on Dec 22, 2016 7:49:40 GMT -8
Question: I recently purchased my first porcelain bjd (Triffony Spinx) and was wondering if I need to wear gloves when handling her? I know I have to wear gloves with resin. I didn't think I had to with porcelain but I saw some videos of a different artist posing porcelain dolls and she was wearing gloves. Thanks!
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Post by Sutton on Dec 22, 2016 11:23:10 GMT -8
No, absolutely not, you don't have to wear gloves to handle a porcelain doll. I find using gloves to handle a porcelain doll in a video to be gimmicky. In one of Marina B.'s older blog posts she writes about scraping the glue off one of her doll's heads using a metal instrument, without harm.
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Post by 415ea on Dec 26, 2016 8:42:22 GMT -8
Thanks Sutton! I feel much better now about handling my doll.🙂
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Post by allurose on Dec 27, 2016 11:00:17 GMT -8
IMO you don't need to use gloves for resin either. It's a good idea to wash your hands first so there isn't excess oil on your hands, but as long as you don't touch the face (or other blushed/manicured/tattooed areas), you skin will not harm the resin itself. The oil on your skin can have a slight effect on the sealant over time, so if you wash your hands it's enough for me at least. It can't damage the resin as far as I know.
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Post by galacticat on Dec 27, 2016 14:10:59 GMT -8
Personally I find the very high end resin do pose better. Specifically Popovy, Enchanted Doll and the spring-strung Marmite sue dolls.
Porcelain pros:
* Paint is baked on and so it seems to have more depth and doesn't fade/chip
* never yellows
Resin pros:
* Not so fragile as porcelain so less stress if you want to change your doll's clothes/wig/take photographs that you could have a mishap and lose a finger or worse...
* Generally I find posing easier but I think it depends on the company/artist.
* You can change the face anytime you like- so if the doll is a beautiful sculpt but you have a face-up artist in mind- or if you happen to be able to do your own face-ups. Not my thing but I know a lot of people like to do this I guess.
Biggest con for porcelain is fragility.
Biggest con for resin is that it yellows, and the paint/body blushing is SO easy to chip/rub off.
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Post by bellabronte1970 on Jan 12, 2017 15:51:56 GMT -8
I've just found this thread. I also asked the same question when I first started collecting bjd's. My collection is mainly resin, all but one, which is a Lidia Snul Bjtales Porcelain. She is beautiful and incomparable in quality, detail and realism. She also poses really well too. Having said that, I have owned other Porcelain girls by other artists that were not of the same quality and some of my resins were, in my opinion, better and I ended up selling the porcelains. My Bjtales Porcelain is, in my eyes, perfection but then I am biased as I think Lidia Snul is the most talented bjd artist out there. Her resins are not on the same level as her porcelains but are better than some other artists porcelains. Again, matter of opinion. I think what I am trying to say is that it's not so much an issue for me as to whether Resin beats Porcelain or vice versa. It's about how good the artist is with a particular medium and whether I like the doll or not. For example, Popovy dolls are Resin but far superior than some of the porcelain dolls out there. If I fall in love with a doll, it's immaterial to me whether it's Resin or Porcelain.
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Post by yellowrose on Jan 29, 2017 1:12:11 GMT -8
This is such a great thread for a newbie to porcelain like myself, and just reinforces my decision to start collecting the porcelain alongside the resin.
I love the complete artistic element and characterisation that is open to me with the resin medium (love doing the face-up's myself and the making of the wigs) but I would not buy another artist full set in resin. These I will now save for in porcelain.
I feel that I will have a perfectly balanced hobby in this respect and be investing my hard earned money into something of quality and a medium that will not breakdown and discolour overtime.
I am thrilled to read your comment above Bellabronte, about Lidia Snuls dolls of BJ Tales in the porcelain medium. I LOVE her dolls but was so disappointed with My Jpopdolls resin Phantom. She felt plasticky and cheap, and did not pose well imo. To hear that her dolls in the porcelain are so lovely is music to my ears!
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Post by bellabronte1970 on Feb 5, 2017 14:29:16 GMT -8
Yellowrose I am sorry to hear that your Bjtales Phantom was disappointing to you. I have owned Phantom myself and admit that, as much as I love Lidias dolls, this one I felt was not one of her best. However, do not be put off by that as others of Lidias creation in Resin are beautiful and pose beautifully. I will add that her dolls are not good for standing poses and do better in sitting/lying positions. As I said before, I allow for both resin and Porcelain in my collection and go with what I like the look of.
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Post by yellowrose on Feb 11, 2017 0:18:17 GMT -8
Thank you bellabronte. This is really good news and music to my ears, as I love some of Lidia's other sculpt's too, but didn't feel that they would have been any better. Now I can re-think!
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Post by toletta on May 3, 2017 5:19:08 GMT -8
Interesting thread I don't have a porcelain doll yet and I was also wondering what the less-obvious differences might be... I'd be mostly worried about knocking her over, but I suppose you don't really "play" with an artist doll? |
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Post by Orchidee on May 3, 2017 11:00:52 GMT -8
toletta Actually for me it is really important that a doll poses nicely so I can pose and "play" with her ;-) I often change her dress too or put her on an doll-armchair or make her stay with her dollstand. On the other hand I am sure there are other collectors who prefer to put their treasures in a cabinet and just look at them. But I have to admit that I would never buy a doll and just let her stand around untouched... Of course you have to be more careful with a porcelain doll!!! If she stands you should always use a dollstand for example :-)
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Post by toletta on May 3, 2017 11:33:31 GMT -8
toletta Actually for me it is really important that a doll poses nicely so I can pose and "play" with her ;-) I often change her dress too or put her on an doll-armchair or make her stay with her dollstand. On the other hand I am sure there are other collectors who prefer to put their treasures in a cabinet and just look at them. But I have to admit that I would never buy a doll and just let her stand around untouched... Of course you have to be more careful with a porcelain doll!!! If she stands you should always use a dollstand for example :-) Thanks! That's an interesting perspective. I also like to play with my dolls (change them, move them around, photograph them) so I'm not sure I'd like something that has to stand still behind glass doors or something like that. Then again, I certainly wouldn't want to break something fragile (and costly), as I'm notoriously clumsy  I am starting to identify some dolls I like, so hopefully I'll be able to try my hands on one of these delicate creatures soon!!(ISH) |
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Post by orangey on Jan 18, 2020 21:05:45 GMT -8
Very interesting topic and discussion
I’ve never owned a porcelain doll. But I have owned a few resin dolls and I really don’t like the material. I have this endless paranoia about yellowing and paint rubbing off and I am not able to comfortably display my dolls, they remain in boxes. There are some dolls I’ve had for several years and the yellowing doesn’t bother me and isn’t obvious but as I said, I don’t display them. And the body blushing has definitely chipped. Not the face up though. I’ve just realized that resin really isn’t for me. But they are durable and Popovys pose incredibly! My other BJDs haven’t posed well (Unoas, Bluefairy etc)
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especially when having seven cats in the house! But with my own dolls I don't have to worry, because I really don't care if they break a doll or too 
. (one of our cats actually just today broke my plaster mold for hands...dropped in on the floor...well, just have to do another mold I guess). I would be super worried though if I had porcelain doll made by real artist -that doll would be locked in lantern etc, far far away from my cats paws 
