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Post by allurose on Sept 7, 2014 10:57:40 GMT -8
What do you all think of the recent trend by some porcelain doll artists to make resin versions of their dolls? For those of you that have both versions (lucky ducks!!) how do you find the quality, beauty, and posing varies between the materials? And just FYI, it is fine to post pictures of your resin dolls in the Off Topic section of the forum, especially if they are made by artists that also make porcelain dolls.
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Post by orchidsdesigns on Sept 22, 2014 23:50:17 GMT -8
I have both resin and porcelain versions of Enchanted Doll and BJTales dolls, and have seen both the resin and porcelain versions of Lightpainted Doll.
I think there is an extreme beauty of the porcelain material that cannot be matched by other materials, BUT am a huge fan of the resin versions as an option as they tend to be more accessible, more affordable, perhaps even more "professional" as they tend to be sent off and cast professionally by a company.
Wherever possible I would personally prefer to simply save up and would rather have ONE porcelain doll from an artist VS several resins, but sometimes this is not an available option. I used to ONLY have porcelain BJD in my collection, making it a firm rule to steer clear of resins. But too many beautiful resins came out :-P
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Post by bibarina on Sept 23, 2014 0:53:54 GMT -8
Having owned both resin and porcelain dolls, I have to say that I prefer porcelain by far, and agree with Orchids Designs. You don't have to worry about scratching or staining of the resin and they just have a special beauty that is incomparable to any other medium. However, I think that it is great that Artists produce resin dolls, as porcelain dolls sell so quickly that if you really love a particular sculpt, resin may be the only way to go! Resin also has it's own beauty and I wouldn't ever discount buying a beautiful doll because it's not porcelain.
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Post by eiko82 on Sept 23, 2014 7:25:23 GMT -8
I think it's great that artists offer the choice of porcelain or resin. I own resin and porcelain EDs so they are the only dolls where I can really compare the two mediums. Both have their own beauty but I find that the resin Eds pose just a little easier than the porcelain ones. I always worry about the leather behind the joints or the metal springs with porcelain dolls.
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Post by fawkes on Sept 23, 2014 8:37:24 GMT -8
I do agree with you bibarina when you say that porcelain dolls are so much more beautiful than resin bjds. Resin can't match the feel of porcelain. Unfortunately they are also much more expensive as it takes so long to make them. Resin is cheaper and you don't have to worry -too much - about breaking it but it can be scratched easily and the paint can fade or peel off in some cases. So if like me you think that the painting job is an important part of the artist's vision of the doll it can be unpleasant to see a portion of that vision fade away. I own four Angel's Egg dolls (Marmite Sue) and she offers excellent blushing so I haven't had to worry about the paint fading so far. ps. I was surprised when I started working with porcelain to see how strong this material can be. So to me the only downside of porcelain dolls is the price so I suppose it's good to offer both versions.
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Post by mdonline03 on Sept 24, 2014 7:20:05 GMT -8
I'm happy these artists make both because it does give people a choice or a chance to own one of their works. I think art should be accessible to people. There is nothing more depressing for an art collector to inquire about a piece and find that it's vastly out of their price range or simply not for sale in any form. But the main reason I'm glad porcelain artists make resin versions is because they were my first exposure to the artist since my current collection revolves around resin. I think both styles have their merits and depending one version may lead you to the path of the other and vice verse.
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Post by pianissimo on Sept 24, 2014 7:43:53 GMT -8
I can't add anything that hasn't already been said except that for me porcelain dolls are treasure - not because they are more expensive but because of the sheer amount of work that goes into each doll.
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Post by lazhielle on Sept 24, 2014 8:38:18 GMT -8
Actually porcelain material is a cheaper one, but there is a lot more labor that goes into it. Easier in some ways harder in others. Resin is quite a toxic material, but porcelain is safe!
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Post by fawkes on Sept 25, 2014 2:18:48 GMT -8
Resin is quite a toxic material, but porcelain is safe! Not so safe when you sand it; porcelain particles are quite toxic too.
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Post by nenethomas on Sept 25, 2014 2:42:17 GMT -8
Well all dust particles are bad for you in excess. I recently read about a woodworker who got emphysema from sawdust. And of course coal mining is notorious for 'black lung'. And what could be more natural than sawdust or rock particles. But what I am dying to know, is when do you sand porcelain???!?
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Post by caracal on Sept 25, 2014 3:32:57 GMT -8
Porcelain is sanded after sof firing -but I think it is almost always done when wet, so there is no dust flying around that much. I sand also resin under water -I already have astma, don't need extra trouble PS; I do think it is great that some artists offer also resin dolls -not all want to have porcelain dolls due to the price or just because they don't like the material. And with resin dolls you can always make them look the way you want and change the look if need be.
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Post by allurose on Sept 25, 2014 5:13:14 GMT -8
That's a good point, caracal, resin is much more easy to customize.
And it's definitely true that breathing porcelain dust or any clay dust is bad for you. But sanding wet takes care of that problem.
I also love the porcelain medium, but I have no qualms about getting a resin doll if it's more easily available. I do love customizing!
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Post by fawkes on Sept 25, 2014 9:42:12 GMT -8
I sand it wet too after the first low firing. It remains soft enough to sand it easily and add details or even rework some parts - especially the face, holes etc.
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Post by fitz on Sept 25, 2014 10:15:52 GMT -8
I am probably one of the few who prefers resin to porcelain. Mostly because I am a clod and have broken my porcelain ED (horrors!), it has since been repaired but it was heart breaking at the time. I have a large resin collection and only one has what I would call significant yellowing. And I have face ups that have lasted over 10 years. So for me resin is more "durable". I get a lot more play with my resins. I do feel the porcelain is just ethereal, in it beauty though.
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Post by merrijane on Sept 25, 2014 15:52:12 GMT -8
I don't have a porcelain bjd, but I'd love one! The stability of porcelain really appeals to me. The china paint won't fade or rub off over time and you can happily display your doll in full sun if you like, without ever having to fear yellowing! I have to say that as much as I love my resin dolls, I'm reluctant to handle them too much in case I wear off the paintwork and I leave them in their boxes to hopefully preserve the resin.
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